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Post by minkie on Jul 15, 2006 22:45:25 GMT -5
I mean more his panting after her all the time...it's just irritating. I'm annoyed that every man has to "love" Babe as his right of passage on this show. Josh had potential but he wants Babe. that ruins him for me. LOL.
For once I want Babe to meet a guy and that guy sees right through her for a change.
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Post by Amy on Jul 15, 2006 22:46:25 GMT -5
And unfortunately there really isn't anyone FOR him to become friends with! JR and Jamie hate him (which I still have trouble fathoming) Reggie is never on... everyone else is sort of too old/ out of his social circle Josh has had a few scenes with Jonathan where he acted like a decent human being towards him. Maybe he could be friends with Jonathan. They have the whole "daddy issue" thing in common. I could see them being friends.
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Post by donutqueen on Jul 15, 2006 22:48:36 GMT -5
good point. Josh was pretty nice to Jonathan. Hopefully when Jon is de-gumped (is that a word?) they could become friends!
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Post by minkie on Jul 15, 2006 22:49:00 GMT -5
LOL Josh with have daddy AND mommy issues, that could make him friends with just about anyone. Every character seems to have one or the other.
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Post by Amy on Jul 15, 2006 22:58:35 GMT -5
Josh was pretty nice to Jonathan. Hopefully when Jon is de-gumped (is that a word?) they could become friends! I think after we've suffered through the Jily storyline (sorry, Shannon) we are entitled to make up words if we want to! I've at least strung together some curse words in new and inventive ways while watching some of the Jily scenes. And while I've always thought Josh was hot I've started to like him more recently and I think a part of the reason why is that he's been decent to Jonathan. That's just me viewing other characters through my Lavery lense.
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Post by donutqueen on Jul 15, 2006 23:06:18 GMT -5
to me, a big reason to like or hate a character is how they treat someone in unfortunate circumstances. Like how they treated "gump" jon, or Josh after he lost his dad... I will NEVER like Zach after his attack on Jonathan simply because he thought Jon might have hurt Kendal. And I lost a LOT of respect for nearly all of PV for how they reacted to the Madden kiddnapping/death news and how mean they were to Josh. Jamie and JR are irredeemable in my eyes
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Post by Amy on Jul 15, 2006 23:23:52 GMT -5
You're right, regardless of what each character felt about Greg they should have felt some compassion for Josh losing his father in such a horrific way. I know Josh has been a jerk to many people in PV but he's not a monster. And I also have a hard time seeing Zach as a hero who helps out the unfortunate. I don't think heroes beat up brain damaged people. I've seen Batman Begins and both Spiderman movies. I never saw either hero slap around a disabled person. And Jr was very unkind to Jonathan on several occasions. I believe he called him a freak and told him that he didn't deserve to be around normal people. I really had to try to like Jr for a long time. I like him better now. I guess I give him more of a pass than Zach because they don't play him up as some sort of hero.
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Post by kallietop on Jul 15, 2006 23:31:34 GMT -5
LL - take a good look at my pics. now do you know why jr is always perfect? ;D jr is adams son. and he turns to alcohol on the turn of a dime. he does know how evil he can be. and yes - he was AWEFUL to jonathan when he first returned as gump. actually several times. jonathan did hurt a lot of people. he's a different man but since when does jr have that open mind? i love him - well i guess i love JY because how he can play the 2 different men he is on the show and even make you believe it.
as for josh and jonathan being friends? kewl but let's worry about the important stuff first: jonathan sex scenes!!!!!!!
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Post by donutqueen on Jul 15, 2006 23:32:15 GMT -5
I hate how so few people seem to be able to distance their hatred for Greg from how they treat Josh... especially JR, his whole life people have hated his dad but given him a break!!!
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Post by donutqueen on Jul 15, 2006 23:33:04 GMT -5
as for josh and jonathan being friends? kewl but let's worry about the important stuff first: jonathan sex scenes!!!!!!! just not with Lily, please, that would be too weird
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Post by kallietop on Jul 15, 2006 23:35:33 GMT -5
haha - no i want our jonathan!!!! no - lily wouldn't be right. i'm hoping for jonathan and amanda but does that part matter?? jonathan shirtless - oh walking around with a little towel - fresh from the shower, hair and body still wet..................sorry - got carried away!!!!
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Post by donutqueen on Jul 15, 2006 23:38:01 GMT -5
*sigh* charity.. what an image!!!
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Post by kallietop on Jul 15, 2006 23:53:50 GMT -5
lovely - isn't it
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Post by minkie on Jul 16, 2006 13:40:14 GMT -5
I hate how so few people seem to be able to distance their hatred for Greg from how they treat Josh... especially JR, his whole life people have hated his dad but given him a break!!! Except how they treat Josh isn't really related to Greg....they don't like Josh because Josh was rude to them first. I mean everyone else who has no problems with Josh but does with Greg (Dixie, Tad, Zach) are not rude to Josh. JR and Jamie are rude to Josh because of fights that started BEFORE the Greg stuff happened. That's just as much Josh's fault as anyone else's. and I'm sorry but....tumour or not, you kill three people and try to kill three more, you can't expect people to welcome you back with open arms. Jonathan is lucky all he got were some heated words. Jonathan had to prove himself again to PV, and he did that. There would be no value to it if he just came back and everyone patted him on the head and said "its okay, baby, you had a tumour."
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Post by kallietop on Jul 16, 2006 14:01:02 GMT -5
just curious how the town will act when they realize jonathan isn't mentally challenged anymore. i think it is easy for people to accept him as gump - but now he'll be walking and talkin just like he used to minus the killing!!!! hmmmmmm
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