stg2
In Full Revenge Mode
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Post by stg2 on Jul 19, 2006 14:28:17 GMT -5
Isn't it amazing how Carruthers has so totally ruined a once fine show? Just a little over a year ago, I would not miss AMC. What a waste of talent the show is. The Zach Show is just not my cup of tea and when I was still watching, I decided early on I couldn't stand NewDixie. Ugh! She and Zach are perfect for each other-two selfish, idiotic creeps. Zixie...That is why I push for Zach/Dixie as a couple...Thay could admire one anothers halo ;D They are the perfect couple
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Post by minkie on Jul 19, 2006 14:48:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure if its Carruthers or McT or both who ruined this show, but it's definitly in the toilet. LOL.
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Post by meg24 on Jul 19, 2006 14:53:43 GMT -5
It's a combination of people, IMO. People are quick to make McT the Scapegoat but the thing is it's not just her deciding all this. I got this from a poster at Soapdom who seems to know how things work:
"Like most things in corporate America, it's a process. First the head writer -- with input from the EP -- develops a long-range story plan, which in itself is no small feat, as they must take into account story arcs for all the characters, and how those arcs will interact with all the other characters. Many other variables must also be considered. Who -- by contract -- is required to work at least 3 days a week. Who may have an out to do a movie of the week and therefore is unavailable for a month or two. Who has vacation, etc. Once all that is taken into account, the story is submitted to Frons and the network. Some shows, like ATWT and GL, also have to have sponsor approval -- namely P&G. I am sure that the network has input and once those tweaks are made, the overall long term story is broken down by the "breakdown" writers (ergo the name breakdown writers, lol)into week by week stories. Then, there is an approval process on that. Once that's approved, the breakdowns are divied up to the script writers who write the day-to-day dialog. There can be like 10 to 12 or more script writers on a show. Then it's the head writer's job to make sure all these individual writers keep the "voices" of individual characters true to the character. Such as Tad saying "jinkies," or Erica throwing a tantrum. Then, the scripts get assigned to directors who put their mark on the material, in the way they believe the dialog should be delivered. And finally, the actors themselves, who put themselves into the role and may --- on occassion --- make dialog changes suggestions which may or may not get approved.
Like I said -- a process! Phew.
LindaYour QueenRuler"
So it's not just one person deciding all this
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Post by minkie on Jul 19, 2006 16:09:04 GMT -5
*snort* So you're telling me that somewhere around 10 different people developped and APPROVED the aborted fetus idea?!? The burying Madden alive idea? The pregnant sex idea?!?
This just means that whole TEAM are freaking morons.
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Post by meg24 on Jul 19, 2006 16:14:06 GMT -5
Pretty much, Minkie!!!
Really, there are so many hoops to jump through, I'm not going to lay it soley on McT's shoulders. I'm I defending her-NO. She is part of the process, but she's not the lone ranger either.
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Post by minkie on Jul 19, 2006 16:17:23 GMT -5
Well I'm sure she came up with most of that stuff, but still everyone else APPROVED it, and therefore they all need pink slips. It was a stupid stupid thing to do. Hell actors from OTHER soaps were complaining about it.
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Post by meg24 on Jul 19, 2006 16:20:39 GMT -5
I know!!!
Yeah, like I said I'm not defending the woman. What I find interesting is this: "First the head writer -- with input from the EP -- develops a long-range story plan, which in itself is no small feat, as they must take into account story arcs for all the characters, and how those arcs will interact with all the other characters."
Obviously Ms. Carruthers is just as involved, so all TK fans better quit complaining-she's just as much the problem as McT
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Post by minkie on Jul 19, 2006 16:24:29 GMT -5
My guess is, McT comes up with an entire thing and JHC makes modifications as she sees fit--or suggests changes and they battle it out. Whichever. But either way they are still at fault.
Honestly, I know it must be hard to come up with a storyline considering all the factors involved but really....it can't be THAT hard to realize some things are really really bad ideas. One trip to their PR office would have told them that. And I mean we've all come up with ideas before that wove in various characters.
I really do think is soap's took a bit more time off during the year they could relax a bit and plan this stuff out better. *shrug*
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Post by meg24 on Jul 19, 2006 16:42:14 GMT -5
I'm sure it's very hard to do storylines, but as you said they should see the big red warning flag with a lot of these...
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Post by donutqueen on Jul 19, 2006 17:50:34 GMT -5
Originally Josh was supposed to be Kendall's twin, but tptb decided that sl had been done to death and decided to do something 'daring' and 'original'... Think about it, the original actor hired for Josh was much older... just about Kendall's age.
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Post by meg24 on Jul 19, 2006 17:53:36 GMT -5
You know, i wouldn't have even cared about the twin s/l being overdone-that's way more believable to me....Oh well, what's done is done and AMC still sucks
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Post by donutqueen on Jul 19, 2006 17:57:04 GMT -5
actually I'm enjoying AMC much more than OLTL and GH now. Its by no means great, but at least people are acting in character.
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Post by Liz on Jul 19, 2006 18:06:28 GMT -5
I know!!! Yeah, like I said I'm not defending the woman. What I find interesting is this: "First the head writer -- with input from the EP -- develops a long-range story plan, which in itself is no small feat, as they must take into account story arcs for all the characters, and how those arcs will interact with all the other characters." Obviously Ms. Carruthers is just as involved, so all TK fans better quit complaining-she's just as much the problem as McT Okay, who is a member of TK's site?? Someone needs to post this info over there!
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Post by meg24 on Jul 19, 2006 18:12:52 GMT -5
Right, Liz!!!
I mean it's understandable people are pissed at McT (I don't like her writing) but it's pretty clear that it's not one person deciding everything- it's a team of people. So one person removed isn't going to do that much.
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Post by minkie on Jul 19, 2006 18:59:18 GMT -5
Hmm Are you sure the first Josh was meant to be a twin? Because honestly this Josh seems more twin-like to Kendall than the first one...the first one seemed much more "Martin."
I originally assumed the recast was because they were NOT going to do the aborted fetus, hence he lost his Martin qualities and became a Kane. LOL. Which was incorrect but still. They made Josh much darker with the recast.
Plus the first guy couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.
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