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Post by betty10211 on Dec 9, 2005 8:23:56 GMT -5
No one deserves to be treated like Jonathan is being treated. I find it very painful to watch & it breaks my heart. Let's see...Aidan manhandled Jonathan...Zach tried to strangle Jonathan...JR taunted Jonathan and made fun of his speech impediment...Zach beat Jonathan up...Sam was rough with Jonathan and harassed him... Poor Jonathan! Jonathan's suffered too much already - he deserves a chance to finally find some happiness and peace. On some level the very people who are tormenting Jonathan know that he poses no threat to anyone or they would be afraid to set him off. I'm still hoping that Jonathan is cleared of the murders (I never believed that Jonathan was guilty - Braden is). Then Jonathan's tormenters may finally feel ashamed of themselves for how they've treated a visibly impaired Jonathan.
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Post by Liz on Dec 9, 2005 9:39:50 GMT -5
I agree that Jonathan is being treated horribly, but I do see why people are so angry with him. They think that he killed Edmond, and terrorized/hurt quite a few other people. While they know he had a brain tumor, their anger won't just go away, especially Sam's. I don't agree that people should be beating on him now that he's had his tumor removed, but I do see where their anger is coming from. Poor Jonathan!
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Post by angelcowgirl2018 on Dec 14, 2005 11:13:43 GMT -5
We all love Jonathan and I am tired of seeing all of PV hating him for someting that he could not help and now that he is still recovering from the tumor something needs to either prove Jonathan's innocence and leave him alone and let Jonathan be happy with his brother, sister and new friend Lily. Jeff we love you and keep up the amazing work.
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Post by zoezeppelin on Dec 14, 2005 22:29:29 GMT -5
Oh I hate the way they've been treating him. It's so painful just sitting through it...especially when I was watching Zach go all Caveman on poor Jon. I feel that he can be totally redeemed of his own accord but it would help if Edmund wasn't really dead after all...or if it wasn't really Jon that committed all of those crimes. I'll admit that after he burned St. Bianca's shirt and slapped Maggie I wanted to go cave-woman on him too. But after seeing him crying on the floor begging not to get beaten and watching him step up and try to face his punishment all I want is for him to be left alone. I nearly killed me watching him on his knees waiting for Sam to shoot him... He deserves a second chance. If Babe and Erica can be forgiven for all their crimes why can't Jon?
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Post by Liz on Dec 15, 2005 0:41:49 GMT -5
Preach on, sister Zoe!! Seriously, I agree with everything you've said. Watching him on his knees waiting for Sam to shoot him was horrible!!
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Post by betty10211 on Dec 15, 2005 6:56:29 GMT -5
I found it painful to watch Jonathan on his knees with Sam pointing a gun at him. Jonathan was willing to die so that people would feel better. I never believed that Jonathan was behind the crime spree, and I still hope that he's cleared. Then maybe all of the people who have been tormenting Jonathan will finally accept him. I agree that Jonathan can be redeemed of his own accord, but I still hope that Jon is proven innocent of the murders. Jonathan has enough painful memories to live with w/o having to cope with the knowledge that his actions, even though he had no control of them, led to the deaths of three people - including the brother Jonathan loved. It would be so easy to reveal that Braden is alive & shift the guilt back onto Braden, especially since there are numerous inconsistencies that exist with a guilty Jonathan but disappear with a guilty Braden. My hope is that some of the new crimes are Braden's doing, and that Braden is apprehended and we learn from there that Braden committed all of the crimes that Jonathan delusionally confessed to. Jon still has no idea of what really happened...he asked the DA about Braden:"I killed him, RIGHT?" and remembers thinking that he had to kill Braden to protect the family. Jonathan never murdered, drugged, or shot anyone - I'm sure of it! (But I love Jonathan whether they clear him or not!)
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Post by zoezeppelin on Dec 15, 2005 7:58:48 GMT -5
ITA with everything you said Betty! **nodding my head in agreement** BTW I totally love that pic in your signature! Jeff is so HOT!!!
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Post by Bree on Dec 15, 2005 9:23:18 GMT -5
I love Jon but I never expect anyone in PV to reach out to him with open arms. I do think Sam, Zach, Jack and others are over the top in their treatment of him. But they think he killed 3 people and got off scott free. I sort of understand that and Sam's pain but not to the extent of getting a gun and exacting revenge. Or beating a defenseless person to a bloody pulp.
That said, I do like the budding relationships Jon is making with Lily and Stuart. So sweet.
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Post by betty10211 on Dec 15, 2005 13:02:59 GMT -5
"But after seeing him crying on the floor begging not to get beaten and watching him step up and try to face his punishment all I want is for him to be left alone."
Whenever I watch that episode where Jon thought Ryan was Patrick & relived the terror he experienced at Patrick's hands, it breaks my heart. I cry every single time I watch. Poor Jonathan!
I want so much for people to start treating Jonathan as if he matters. The only person who does this is Erin, and now Lily.
Even Ryan treats Jon as if his feelings are of no significance. Ryan questions Jonathan every time any new crime occurs in PV, despite Jonathan's visible hurt, and persists after Jon swears his innocence. Ryan should know better than to hurt Jon repeatedly the way that he does. Ryan is one of the people who needs to start treating Jonathan as if he matters IMO. Erin was right when she told Ryan that he treats Jonathan just like everyone else does!
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Post by Brandon on Jan 9, 2006 23:36:26 GMT -5
I am just APPALLED by how horrible Jonathan has been treated by most of PV. I know they all think he's some psycho murderer, but that still doesn't give them the right to physically attack a now defenseless man (Yes, I'm talking to you Zack). Once Jonathan is cleared of everything (including everything he allegedly did last time he was in PV), those apologies better fall like rain. Jonathan has already suffered more than enough MINUS the abuse he's currently taking from most of PV. I've had enough of it and I can't wait until Jonathan is recovered and cleared so that everyone in PV will finally leave him the HELL alone and he can finally get on with his life.
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