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Post by jillyfanfirst on May 18, 2007 17:54:18 GMT -5
I thought it was hot!!And very professional...... here come the haters lol
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Post by Amy on May 18, 2007 18:38:20 GMT -5
Well, since you opened the door let me walk through. I'm not sure a kiss can be hot and professional. If it looks "professional' then it's not spontaneous or sexy or hot. Personally, I thought it was neither hot nor professional. Ava made fun of the problems Jonathans had with speech while he was recovering from brain damage (she did a hateful little fake stutter) and also referred to him in his brain damaged state as a "moron." Wow, a worthless skanky c**t taunting someone about their past disabilities, it doesn't get much hotter than that. After Ava said those things to Jonathan today I hope she dies a painful, drawn out death. Maybe Tad can bury her alive. Not a fan of torture but in this case I'm willing to make an exception.
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Post by Liz on May 18, 2007 18:39:14 GMT -5
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Post by Amy on May 18, 2007 18:49:38 GMT -5
Thanks, Liz. I was spitting fire about the Ava/Jonathan scenes. Gee, thanks AMC for having Jonathan kiss someone who was verbally abusing him. Nothing like showing a victim of horrific childhood psychological and physical abuse being "attracted" to someone who has just verbally abused him. Nice message AMC.
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Post by Liz on May 18, 2007 18:58:32 GMT -5
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Post by Amy on May 18, 2007 19:09:06 GMT -5
Liz, I am just truly upset about this. And it's not just about me wanting Jonathan to be with Amanda or finding Lily annoying. It's about what you just said. The horrible message this sends out to teens and to abuse victims. And I feel so bad for Jeff. I don't know the man but I just know in my heart this has got to make him very uncomfortable. It's not right to ask him to do something he clearly is bothered by.
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Post by Liz on May 18, 2007 19:17:19 GMT -5
Well, I agree, again, with everything you say, Amy. This is something that I actually talked to Jeff about for a long time when we had our "drinks" together. I was VERY vocal about it with both him and Chrishell. So much so, that they were totally laughing at me during the Q&A segment during the event.
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Post by trixie on May 18, 2007 19:17:44 GMT -5
I agree with you guys. It was disturbing. Not hot AT ALL. And certainly not right. This show still needs to figure some things out.
Like not using 17-year-old girls in slutty scenes with 30-year-old men.
It was the antithesis of hot. It was perverted and coldly calculated to titillate. A plot point that the network considers "hot". And I find it a bit sad that some people think it was actually just that.
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Post by Niki on May 18, 2007 19:17:54 GMT -5
I'm sure it was very hot. Jonathan and Ava are the sexiest couple on the show. The only other scenes that rival theirs are the love scenes with Kendall, Zach and his flapping man boobs. That is hawt. Phew!
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Post by Niki on May 18, 2007 19:19:08 GMT -5
I agree with you guys. It was disturbing. Not hot AT ALL. And certainly not right. This show still needs to figure some things out. Like not using 17-year-old girls in slutty scenes with 30-year-old men. It was the antithesis of hot. It was perverted and coldly calculated to titillate. A plot point that the network considers "hot". And I find it a bit sad that some people think it was actually just that. I completely agree with your last part word for word. More karma!
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Post by Beth on May 20, 2007 14:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by Barbara on May 20, 2007 15:58:01 GMT -5
Aw, Tell us how you really feel, Beth! ;D I did not think the kiss was that great either. I wanted Jonathan to deck the bitch after she made fun of Jonathan's during his recovery from the surgery. That was so hateful.
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Post by Beth on May 20, 2007 17:16:41 GMT -5
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Post by Niki on May 20, 2007 17:44:04 GMT -5
Don't forget hot! Somebody tivo'd that days episode for me. Ewwww. I see what Amy meant about the verbal abuse. She just kept slamming him and it made him look pretty sad that he kissed her back like that. Abuse should not ever equal attraction. And why is it whenever ava kisses someone she tries to eat their face?
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Post by Chris on May 20, 2007 17:48:41 GMT -5
I still haven't seen it. Maybe I'll get to that episode sometime next week. ha ha! And I'll watch it while drinking.
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